my feeling is probably mitt romney is down a point or two. i think the debate wednesday night is crucial. how these events unfold is going to be important. >> i agree he's down a point or two. rasmussen has him down by three, which is unusual. two other factors come in to play. one is the higher level of enthusiasm among republicans, 16 points higher. secondly, the undecided vote tending to go against the incumbent. so i believe that romney can come back. i think he will. i think a lot depends on the debate wednesday night. the debate is stacked to play in romney's favor. the things romney is accusing obama of owe mismanaging the economy, fast and furious, this banghazi stuff -, that can't be rebutted. what obama is accusing romney of, being a tax cheat, swiss bank accounts, all that kind of stuff, can be rebutted. >> sean: what obama will say -- thus this will be mostly on the economy. obama will say, it's getting better. that was the recovery summer of 2010. >> but romney -- there were a whole lot of people right now who want to vote for ro